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The Woonsocket Call reported April 23 2012 that the city is exploring its options. “I have no intention of removing the cross under any circumstances,” the newspaper quoted Fontaine saying.

Links:
FFRF       Letter
WoonsocketCall
Water Tower crosses

MyWoonsocket.com Guestbook
RI House Bill 8143

Update -
M
ay 11, 2012. The city of Woonsocket has raised $15,000 for a fund established to defend against a potential lawsuit over a monument topped with a cross that has drawn a complaint from an atheist group.  Mayor Leo Fontaine said this week that donations have been coming in from around the country. A local lumber company that's been making and selling Latin Crosses... [continued]  [more]

Update -
T
o donate to KEEP [sic] the Woonsocket memorial click here or mail your donation to:
    Woonsocket War Memorial Defense and Preservation Fund
    PO Box B
    Woonsocket, RI 02895


CHRIS  ALLEN

Update -    From Chris Allen
In case you don't already know, our recent victory in Utah in the Highway Patrol Cross case makes a great precedent to point out to R.I. I heard your discussion on the radio, and this case is very similar. You're even getting the same rationalizations back that we got.

In Utah the Highway Patrol Association started erecting 12 foot steel crosses on public property with the UHP logo on them to memorialize troopers who died in the line of duty. They argued that the crosses were not religious, just traditional memorials.

We won in a strong decision from the Tenth Circuit Appeals Court, and the U.S. Supreme Court denied certiorari. The Supreme Court met three times to consider it, and Clarence Thomas wrote a dissent to the denial. The list of briefs filed against us is a virtual Who's Who of the religious right. All the crosses on public property have now been removed to private property, and the UHP logo has been removed as ordered.

It's all collected and listed at: Atheists.org/content/steel-crosses-utah-highways, including legal briefs on both sides, news articles, and some speeches. Hope this helps you persuade the mayor of Woonsocket ( FFRF.org/news/releases/ffrf-contests-more-Rhode-island-religion/) to remove his cross.


Director of the Utah Chapter  of American
Atheists from  1982  to 1993; from 1994
 to 2001.

Stay tuned...
 

The Utah Highway Patrol Crosses Case

 New   Six-year Battle Removes 12-foot Crosses From Government Land (pdf)
 You Tube - Brian Barnard Speaks To Salt Lake Valley Atheists: Part 1  2   3   4
2011 Oct 31 News release - Brian Barnard (we Won!)
FFRF sues Tennesse Villages of Somerville and Whiteville over Crosses
VICTORY for AA! Supreme Court Declines to Hear Utah Cross Case

The Supreme Court's Justice Thomas' dissenting opinion
American Atheists' coverage

Crosses do violate the Constitution by Gregory A. Clark
*  "Disclaimers" are now affixed onto roadside crosses

Free speech and religious freedom intersect in case of Utah crosses

 

2011 Brian Barnard at Utah Atheist's Brunch speaking on the UHP Christian Crosses Case update - YouTube

 

2010 Brian Barnard at Utah Atheist's Brunch speaking on the UHP Christian Crosses Case update - YouTube

 



The dishonesty of Utah officials is boundless:
After Utah lost its lawsuit before the US supreme court, Utah officials tried to whitewash the affair by affixing a disclaimer:  A cross is NOT a religious symbol!

Crucifixion of the Utah's state symbol, the beehive.  How apropos!
What should Utah do about the crosses memorializing fallen state troopers?

  *   Replace the crosses with non-religious memorials
  *   Comply with the courts' rulings and take the crosses off government property
  *   Quit pretending that a Roman cross is not an overwhelmingly religious symbol
  *   UHP admits the crosses are religious memorials because they have agreed
       to put up Stars of David if a Jewish trooper is killed
  *   A Roman cross is a memorial only for Christians.
  *   Honor the troopers in a non-religious way and honor the Constitution
  *   Use an American Flag or the UHP Beehive symbol as the road side memorial

The brief we filed in the Supreme Court - Jul 25, 2011
SUPREME COURT BRIEF IN OPPOSITION TO UTAH STATE AND UHPA WRITS OF CERTIORARI
American Atheists oppose U.S. Supreme Court review of Utah highway crosses case - Deseret News Attorney: Supreme Court shouldn’t waste time on roadside crosses case - S.L. TRIBUNE

 Links
MOJAVE DESERT CROSS CASE vs. UTAH HIGHWAY PATROL CROSS CASE ... a letter from our attorney, Brian Barnard, Esq.

How the god Business Gets Away With Being Tax Free and Why Taxing Churches Could Bring Us Into the 21st Century.

Barnard's proposal to settle the cross case.

Defendants stall for time because one of them is enjoying a vacation.

Utah Legal Clinic


Brian Barnard:
"A lot of taxpayer money has been spent on this so far"

 

 

Sent:Aug31, 2010
Subject: How much?

I would estimate
that between my
office, the state
and the UHPA,  there
has been more than
$750,000 of attorney
fees and court costs
incurred to date.

"...The first cross was erected in 1998 on private property and 13 others were added later -- most of them on public property." ~ Salt Lake Tribune

  Link    See the court brief (pdf):
AMERICAN ATHEISTS, INC., a Texas non-profit corporation; R. ANDREWS; S. CLARK; and M. RIVERS, Plaintiffs-Appellants, v. SCOTT T. DUNCAN, Colonel,
Superintendent of Utah Highway Patrol; et al...

One argument that was tried by Utah's defense lawyers in the cross case is that the Roman Cross is NOT a religious symbol; for example, telephone poles are cross-shaped an thus the cross is not a symbol of Christianity.  This sentiment seems to be fortified, as shown to us by Adam Hooper of KPLC (NBC News), reporting on Ricky Navarre's sighting of telephone pole as crucifix in Hathaway, Louisiana (2010.
 Link   NBC News Video


 

In the Utah Highway patrol case:

 Link  Our response to rehearing petition by the state
"...Utah then simply repeats arguments previously made... All those arguments were appropriately considered by the hearing panel.

"A petition for rehearing which “discloses no issues the panel has overlooked or misconstrued in its order and judgment” and “is essentially a reiteration of arguments already advanced in the briefs . . . is neither helpful nor persuasive.

    "Utah points to nowhere the panel decision misapprehended the facts nor the law. Utah simply reargues its case in its Petition. This is an abuse of the privilege of making such a petition.

    "The hearing panel properly considered the facts and issues before the Court and applied the proper legal analysis. The State Defendants seek rehearing, yet present no substantial mistakes of law. Instead, Utah simply presents again the arguments already considered by the hearing panel. This is not an appropriate use of a petition for rehearing and Utah’s petition should therefore be denied."


"For the foregoing reasons, Utah’s Petition for Rehearing En Banc
should be denied"

 Link  Our response to the rehearing petition by UHPA
"Whether the government violates the Establishment Clause depends in large part on the display's particular physical setting.

     "The large Roman cross is the UHPA memorial. In comparison, the written words and the UHP logo are secondary to the cross and its message.

     "The UHPA concedes that monumental size crosses standing alone on government property would violate the Establishment Clause.

     "UHPA acknowledges that the Roman crosses are of religious origins and are a symbol of faith.

     "For UHPA the memorial crosses are religious symbols. UHPA would allow the family of the deceased UHP trooper to chose religious symbols other than the cross as the roadside memorial. “Because [the UHPA] exist[s] to serve family members of highway patrolmen, the UHPA would provide another memorial symbol if requested by the family.

     "The religious preference of the deceased trooper’s family determines the UHPA memorial to be erected.

     "Both the UHPA and the State of Utah argue that the memorial crosses should not be viewed as government speech despite the Supreme Court’s decision in Pleasant Grove City, Utah v. Summum... which held that privately financed and donated monuments that government accepts and displays on government land will almost always constitute government speech.

     "The State Defendants seek rehearing, yet present no substantial mistakes of law.

     "The panel analyzed the relevant factors, including Defendants’ purpose for the memorials, and correctly concluded that based on the totality of relevant factors, the UHPA memorials convey an impermissible message of government endorsement of Christianity to the reasonable observer.

   "For the foregoing reasons, Utah’s Petition for Rehearing En Banc should be denied."

American Atheists sue to stop World Trade Center Cross


Salt Lake City's atheists congregate near a highway sign in 2011.


3-D: Cross your eyes. 
Interesting Optical Illusions.


   

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