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Q: "Where did you get the GOLD with which your churches are gilded?"
Scams, Dishonesty, Abuse, Theft, FAQ

Pope John Paul II. (AP photo)
Nothing says faith more like four inches of bullet-proof glass.
 

A: "We butchered the Aztecs, loaded their gold onto our fleet, then pasted it onto our churches.

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Looting of Pre-Columbian treasure by Catholics continues to this day
U.S. judge recommends giving treasure to Spain   By J i m  L o n e y  – Thu Jun 4, 2009

MIAMI (Reuters) – A U.S. judge said a shipwreck found by an American treasure hunting company is the Spanish warship Mercedes and its loot should be returned to Spain, but the firm said on Thursday it would contest the non-binding decision.

The recommendations on Wednesday by a magistrate judge in Tampa, Florida, marked the latest step in a lengthy battle between the treasure hunters, Odyssey Marine Exploration Inc, and the governments of
Spain and Peru over nearly 600,000 silver and gold coins valued at some $500 million.

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The Spanish government hailed the decision from Magistrate Mark Pizzo, which called for the treasure to be returned [sic] to Spain within 10 days. But it was simply a recommendation to a U.S. district court judge, who will issue a final order.

"I am delighted that the judge has ruled that the ship belongs to Spain and the treasure belongs to Spain. It is a very important decision," said Spanish Culture Minister Angeles Gonzalez-Sinde, adding it set an important precedent.

Odyssey's shares closed nearly 43 percent lower at $2.21 on the Nasdaq exchange on Thursday.

The company said the magistrate's recommendations would have no impact on its balance sheet because the coins were never treated as assets.

Odyssey discovered wreckage and a 17-tonne haul of artifacts in March 2007 in international waters about 100 miles west of the Straits of Gibraltar.

Spain said the coins came from the Nuestra Senora de las Mercedes, a frigate
carrying treasure back from Peru when it was sunk by British gunboats off the Spanish coast in 1804.

Spain claimed the loot as its own, but not before Odyssey had flown the treasure to Florida from Gibraltar, a British territory.

CODE NAME 'BLACK SWAN'

The Mercedes sank in the first few minutes of the Battle of Cape St. Mary's as an explosion ripped it apart, killing more than 200 sailors. The attack led Spain to declare war on Britain and enter the Napoleonic Wars on the side of France.

Pizzo said in his report there was solid evidence the wreckage was that of the Mercedes, as Spain argued.

"The debris field's location, coins, cannons and artifacts persuasively match the Mercedes historical record," he wrote.

He said the Tampa court did not have jurisdiction in the case and recommended the artifacts be returned to Spain.

Peru, which was ruled by Spain at the time the Mercedes was sunk, entered the legal fray in August when it filed a claim for information with the Tampa court. The filing said
the coins may be "part of the patrimony of the Republic of Peru.

Emphasis added.    Source:  http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090604/sc_nm/us_spain_treasure_odyssey_4

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THE POPE IS COMING TO AMERICA...Again!
And We’ll be Ready to Protest the Vatican’s Oppressive and Theocratic  Agenda for Our Country and the Rest of the World!


POPE BENEDICT, a/k/a Joseph Ratzinger – formerly head of the Holy  Inquisition and now Pope of the Roman Catholic Church – is coming to visit  the United States/ Leading clerical and political figures – including  President George W. Bush – will be meeting in him during papal visits to  Washington, DC and New York City. AMERICAN ATHEISTS will be hosting peaceful demonstrations in both  cities to protest the papal agenda for cultural, social and political  hegemony. We invite all Atheist, Freethought, Secular Humanists and other  nonbelievers to join us in speaking out. Whatever label you use to  describe your nonbelief and opposition to clerical authoritarianism of all  denominations – whether you’re a Rational, a Bright, a Humanist, Agnostic,  Atheist, or a strict Separationist – we welcome you!


WASHINGTON, DC.
April 16, 2008 The Pope will join Bush for a reception on the  south lawn of the White House. Join us beginning at 10:00 AM across the  street from the White House in Lafayette Park. Bring signs and banners  conveying a polite but firm message in opposition to the Vatican / Ratzinger  agenda. There will be a brief program of speakers including:  
 

ELLEN JOHNSON, President of American Atheists  
ARLENE-MARIE, President of Michigan Atheists and State Director, AA  
MARGARET DOWNEY, President of Atheist Alliance  
FRED EDWORDS, Director of Communications, American Humanist  Association  
CHRISTOPHER ARNTZEN, President, Gay and Lesbian Atheists and  Humanists  
RICK WINGROVE, Capitol Hill Representative, Virginia Director,  American Atheists
 

Lafayette Park is convenient to the McPherson Square station of the METRO.


NEW YORK CITY, NY.
April 18-20, 2008 The pope is scheduled for two days of events in New York City, and so  far the police have not announced specifics on when or where  demonstrations will be permitted. We will post that information as soon as  we have it. In the meantime, stay in contact with KEN BRONSTEIN of NYC Atheists.


ENDORSING ORGANIZATIONS
American Humanist Association
Atheists of Silicon Valley
Michigan Atheists
The Free Inquiry Group of Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky (FIG)

Other ENDORSING ORGANIZATIONS
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Salt Lake Valley Atheists
Translated-Correctly.com
Utah Atheists &
Atheists of Utah
Faith-Based.com of Utah

LINK:  www.atheists.org

(AMERICAN ATHEISTS is a nationwide movement that defends civil rights  for Atheists; works for the total separation of church and state; and  addresses issues of First Amendment public policy.)  


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 2010-09-23